MeisterR Exhaust Interests?

[MeisterR 34]

This is just a questions to see interests.

 

While MeisterR is a suspension specialist, we have done other project throughout the years.

One of them is exhaust system.

 

The GT86 exhaust was always something we had in mind, but never really got around to it.

So we just want to see if there are any interests if we had one made.

 

The main difference between a MeisterR exhaust and other mainstream company (such as Miltek) is we make exhaust to a higher quality and also employ different design usually.

 

We want exhaust to be more enthusiast focused, so we want to keep drone reasonable but we don't want it too quiet.

We can make a quiet exhaust if it is for track use, but we really want an exhaust that is fun to used on those fast road / tunnel run.  

 

Here is a video of the exhaust we made for the R35 GTR.

 

 

 

The GT86 won't sound the same, but you get the idea of what we mean by we aren't after a quiet exhaust.

 

Price will be slightly higher than Miltek, but it won't be miles off.

So this is a case to see if there are any interests if we have something like this made.

 

We will probably need a car from an owner for about 2 weeks and jig up the entire car and try out a few different version if we do decide to go ahead with this project.

 

 

Just a questions to see interests, that is all.  

Jerrick

[Lauren 2259]

Just out of interest are your exhausts made in the UK or are they made elsewhere?

 

Also, may I ask how your exhausts are higher quality as you don't actually state how that is achieved. I have a Milltek which is an exhaust company I've heard of. Whilst I've heard of Meister R suspension I wasn't aware that you made exhausts.

[MeisterR 34]

Just out of interest are your exhausts made in the UK or are they made elsewhere?

 

Also, may I ask how your exhausts are higher quality as you don't actually state how that is achieved. I have a Milltek which is an exhaust company I've heard of. Whilst I've heard of Meister R suspension I wasn't aware that you made exhausts.

 

They will all be hand built by our fabricator in the UK.  It is a custom exhaust fabricator we used for years.

He is the go to person for us, all of MeisterR demo cars, and most of the MeisterR sponsored Team MnM Drift cars, etc. all have our exhaust build by him.

 

He normally do one off custom job, but we actually try to make production unit by jigging up an entire car.

In the case of the R35 exhaust, we build a complete jig the length of the entire car and weight 200kg.  

 

In terms of quality, it will be from the material choice we use and the actual skill labor involved.

 

For sound absorbing material, we use a "woven" Acousta-Fil mat.

Because of the way the mat are made, it reinforce itself and no metal wires are needed around the material.

We can also pack it in different density which will affect the sound, but that will be something to be done in the designing phase.

I know other use continuous fibre, but I don't think many company use the woven mat due to the higher cost.

 

The welding will be the biggest difference visually.

There is a huge difference in the quality and strength of the welding from an experience welder, vs a welding assembly line.

 

Finally, it will be the design.

Because it is a bespoke custom design item, we can use more complex design.

What we will design will depends on how the engine sound, as every engine sound different so it is a little of R&D to see what works with the engine and make it sounds best.

 

The MeisterR exhaust (if we do make them) will be more of a bespoke custom build exhaust than a off the shelf item.

We won't be selling loads like the Miltek, but of those we sell will have quality next to none.

It just depends if there are enough to justify the initial R&D, jigging, production, etc.

 

Jerrick

[Lauren 2259]

Thanks for taking the time to reply.  So really it's a matter of developing an exhaust for the GT86 rather than having something you have already developed. 

 

I'm guessing you'll offer a lifetime warranty just as Miltek do. 

[MeisterR 34]

We will provide lifetime warranty on the exhaust we sell, but don't think any of the exhaust ever had a weld fail on any of our cars.

And that include turbo manifold / down pipe on a championship winning drift car.

 

It does depends on if there are interests.

We can make great product, but if there is no demand for it then it wouldn't make sense to go into R&D.

 

Jerrick

[Lauren 2259]

That's fine, so basically you don't have a product but are merely offering one if there is enough interest.

 

The exhaust market is very competitive and there are a number of well established companies and excellent bespoke manufactures such as JP Exhausts in Macc' who make some amazing stuff not just for drift cars, but they make bespoke manifolds for the like of Bugatti, Ferrari etc and even the odd Bentley. Hard to compete with that IMO. 

[MeisterR 34]

Not a problem, this is just a thought.

After all, as I have said, suspension is our main focus and expertise.

 

I find exhaust is a bit more difficult because it is difficult to quantify, but that is why just checking to see interests.

If there isn't much then there is no point, because it would a complete new development for us.

 

Mind you our fabricator have done some exotic cars in the past also.

I just use a turbo drift car as example because probably nothing put exhaust under more stress.

When you are bouncing off the rev limiter in 4th gear going sideway, the sheer engine heat + lack of air flow (as you are going sideway) makes the manifold glow white sometime.

 

Quality aside, it is the noise that most owners are after…  So that is where the R&D time will have to be spend.

Because the best build exhaust that sound boring will not generate any interests.

 

Jerrick

[Lauren 2259]

Well a lot of us already have after market exhausts but there are always people looking for options. I guess if you can do a good deal for a club member it could be a springboard to market it. 

 

Good luck.