MartinT 514 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 I have rotated the water hose both ends and that has given me a small gap, which really helps. Still waiting for the heat wrap to arrive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varelco 211 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 Wow that quite a big difference from some of the others posted. Looks like maybe a fault with manufacturing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinT 514 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 Interesting that TD started heat wrapping the water hose as with mine, though. Some of the photos of earlier cars show no wrapping of the hose, just the exhaust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 2 hours ago, BRZ-123 said: The manifolds and exhausts are no longer made at JP. They are now made in house at TD. Really? That might account for the variance then. My coolant hose wasn't wrapped but it doesn't need to be as there is a good gap between that and the down (up) pipe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravelRash 62 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 I've just checked my installation and I don't have the coolant pipe wrapped either. My install is about 14 months old. The clearance to the pulley is close but I do have quite a gap between the coolant pipe and the exhaust pipe. I'm struggling to visually see the depth, but on the first picture, and on my car, the exhaust pipe seems to be quite a bit lower than the airbox, whereas on the image of the damaged pipe the top of the exhaust seems to be almost on a level with the air box. Is it possible that there's a spacer somewhere that's raising the exhaust slightly? I know that someones mentioned a manufacturing tolerance, but that appears to be quite some tolerance! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaltorak 111 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 I'll be getting the NA pack installed tomorrow, I'll take me pics once it's in for comparison. I'll ask Mike about it too. 1 Angelina reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinT 514 Report post Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kaltorak said: I'll be getting the NA pack installed tomorrow, I'll take me pics once it's in for comparison. I'll ask Mike about it too. Please do, I'd like his opinion as to whether this clearance is typical for new installs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike@TD.co.uk 467 Report post Posted January 12, 2019 @MartinT There have been some subtle changes over the years, both from the days of JP and also when we moved manufacture in house. Yours however does now look very close, closer than normal. Can happily take a look at it for you if you'd like and see what is what. Thanks Mike 3 Paul, Angelina and Rich reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinT 514 Report post Posted January 12, 2019 Thanks for the offer, Mike. However, it's a 7 hour round trip for me so I'll keep that in my back pocket for now. Good to know that the gap is a bit close compared with the norm. Unfortunately, the heat wrap never arrived despite my paying for next day delivery. I put a claim into eBay and got a message saying they had tried to deliver to work at some very late time and no-one was there. No shit! I'll be OK using the car minimally and doing the repair on Monday. The few mm gap I opened up by twisting the top hose was good enough to get me home without any further issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Angelina 82 Report post Posted January 12, 2019 I'll be getting the NA pack installed tomorrow, I'll take me pics once it's in for comparison. I'll ask Mike about it too. Please share what Mike saysSent from my iPad using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaltorak 111 Report post Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Angelina said: Please share what Mike says Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Mike shared what mike says He was posting about it as I walked in the door, top bloke. I think the basic consensus was it doesn't make any sense to be that close now, its a fixed system at either end, it shouldnt be possible to move that much. 1 Angelina reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VAD17 479 Report post Posted January 13, 2019 I found a photo of my from last year. Pretty close, Mike wrapped both.Had no problems at all, including track days...Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lmc 27 Report post Posted January 13, 2019 Is this problem with both equal & unequal length manifolds? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinT 514 Report post Posted January 13, 2019 5 hours ago, VAD17 said: I found a photo of my from last year. Pretty close, Mike wrapped both Yes, that looks much closer to my exact setup. I see Mike used the titanium exhaust heat wrap on both pipes - I shall do the same. Thanks for the confirmation! P.S. I also have the same TD intake pipe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinT 514 Report post Posted January 14, 2019 Did the fix just now. The wrap is almost impossible to cut without fraying but I've done my best. Two layers around the exhaust, spiral layer around the top hose. I'm going to order a new top hose as I'm not sure I liked what the heat has done to it. Better to replace it to be sure. I may be able to experiment more when I reposition a new one so as to create a better gap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrey86 352 Report post Posted January 14, 2019 It's a bit crap having to wrap a radiator hose tbh. My Fa20club manifold that the TD is supposed to be a copy of goes nowhere near it. 4-5 inches away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinT 514 Report post Posted January 14, 2019 Gosh, all I can find online is a complete set of radiator hoses from China. Does anyone know of a UK/EU retailer selling these items individually? And no, I don't want a silly red one with a brand name on it costing £125! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted January 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, MartinT said: Gosh, all I can find online is a complete set of radiator hoses from China. Does anyone know of a UK/EU retailer selling these items individually? And no, I don't want a silly red one with a brand name on it costing £125! Surely you can get the part you need from Toyota or Subaru? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinT 514 Report post Posted January 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lauren said: Surely you can get the part you need from Toyota or Subaru? Yes, I guess I'll have to pop over to Bulldog Twyford (Subaru) and collect one. It's not ideal so I was hoping to have one delivered. I've just had an idea: there is a Toyota dealership in Basingstoke. That might be a lot more convenient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lauren 2259 Report post Posted January 14, 2019 RRG Macclesfield will order it and post it to you. 01625 869 900. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinT 514 Report post Posted January 14, 2019 Thanks. I just tried Toyota and got a load of jobsworth telling me that I had to have a Toyota registration plate or chassis number to be able to order a part. No amount of my telling her that it's the same car would budge her. Grrr! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Church 209 Report post Posted January 14, 2019 I usually got opposite experience, with subaru parts dept. almost always insisting on VIN number prior starting any search in their part systems then toyota/scion, and in most cases finding out corresponding subaru analogue only from PNs mentioned in forums at best. Maybe try finding out corresponding PN eg. here, and then ask them availability/pricing for specific parts/assemblies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Varelco 211 Report post Posted January 14, 2019 That's a shocking fit. Far too close, from the photo it looks like it's actually touching, it may even be closer if the manifold expands with heat. Then when the engine rocks it's going to fret the wrap away again. Why is it necessary go so far up and over that it's practically in contact with a radiator hose? It's not like it's needed for performance given all the others which sit much further away. Surely TD cant say thats fine? seeing as its a modular design it's not even like you need a complete new manifold, just the loop section. 2 surrey86 and Lmc reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rich 378 Report post Posted January 15, 2019 22 hours ago, MartinT said: Did the fix just now. The wrap is almost impossible to cut without fraying but I've done my best. Two layers around the exhaust, spiral layer around the top hose. I'm going to order a new top hose as I'm not sure I liked what the heat has done to it. Better to replace it to be sure. I may be able to experiment more when I reposition a new one so as to create a better gap. I folded the ends in to keep the frayed part tucked away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MartinT 514 Report post Posted January 15, 2019 It was hard to do a neat repair with the top hose in place. I've now ordered a replacement from Subaru and will wrap it neatly, and re-do the exhaust, before I fit it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
