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I had the Koni's before my Tein's, they worked and were ok for road but honestly you could probably do with some better adjustability. It's one of them things you can cheap out on and regret later. Seems you've done that once and learnt!

PM Hashiriya, it's his kit!

Well you get what you pay for really don't you. There are some fantastic components out there some up to the 800 mark a set! lol

You need to drive both really, happy to let you drive my sprintex I'm on standard brakes and clutch. I think i can get away with a good set of pads really..

yes it's one of them things that if i had the cash i'd probably do. But priorities really.

like many things they need bedding in glad it's all still going well. Speakers are particularly bad but i'm not super fussed about audio these days to warrant it.

Cider for me lately...

I do not comprehend? Were you intentionally trying to come accross as a caveman then? haha

To be fair, I don't see it an issue. It's at the sort of 20minute mark that I hit that temp, and in all honesty, even 15minutes is enough on track at any one time so it's not an issue. Just laying off the boost and letting some cool air run through brings it down after a lap or two anyway.

I'm missing out

I've seen temps of 69 degrees with no issues or noticeable affect on power. This was on a humid day, and pushing very hard on track. You wouldn't get near that on road though, if you do, you're running from something and should get nicked I honestly feel the mid 50's being seen is perfectly fine. Still, will be interesting to see if you make anymore or gain some consistency from all this.

I too came from a 1.6, Fiesta. It was a life changing experience and no longer being a RWD virgin feels great.

Because as James said above, it costs a lot more, more time consuming and fiddly. Plus even distribution of the spray can be an issue it seems.

I think the main debate is, "is it really worth the hassle?" but it's all preference. The temps have been reduced, but how much of a benefit it currently gives is unknown and will be until the end of the month. For James, he's happy to fill it up and pay for it so it's worth it and he's got lower temps, and potentially more consistent. But cooling post charge would in theory see cooler temps.

It doesn't necessarily say it's the most efficient, it just states it's perfectly feasible Logic states you should cool at the hottest point to get the most reduction in heat though of course it's not always possible. Surely you agree with that?

it all depends what it's coated with surely and how, there is many factors Obviously the wear could be minimal, to some people that con is more of a con to some than to others. For me, the whole install is a massive con because I simply can't be arsed to top it up and I don't particularly see my temperatures as an issue. If i was experiencing detonation then obviously it would have to be looked at or some form of better cooling solution.

Not saying it would happen James. I'm listing potential pros and cons of injecting from different locations. but from looking online. There are instances of meth removing the coating off of the internals of the charger. That said, it's not coated anyway. I'm sure mark or Steve can confirm that, I havent seen inside so who knows some of it may be.

Injecting the meth after the S/C would still be before the engine, looking online there are both arguments for/against this. Most notably is the distribution of the spray even at that point? So there seems to be no right or wrong.. Before the S/C: Higher temperatures, but potentially more even spread of the spray resulting in a possibility of more consistent results. However Cons to this could be unknown wear to the Charger & laminova After the S/C: Lower temperatures, harder to monitor and perhaps not as evenly spread. Pro's no potential damage to the charger & laminova. Con's may need to re-place AIT sensor?

It will be re-opened at the end of the month, James knows why it was closed as I spoke to him. I'm happy to re-open it if people are going to discuss Meth injection in a calm manner. I'm not going to re-open it for another argument to start, i've just asked James to get some logs and actual data rather than claiming it's the best thing ever without any real data to back it up. Because in it;s current standing it seems to rattle some cages. EDIT: As griffin wanted to continue the discussion I am happy for a discussion to continue but James, do yourself a favour and get some data before claiming things and take criticism a little less personal

Sounds like the AD08's could be a viable option for you then. Haven't used them myself but haven't heard a bad thing about them.

I assume you do not intend to partake in the TSS in the near future?

Well Sarah didn't make her pub crawl, she ended up at the London Eye with us That was a very long day and I didn't get in until 3am

Have to agree with Lauren, the F1's are great for road, somewhat lack on track, particularly in the wet IMO. So I will be trying some different ones next.

Looking at the picture last night, condensation on the core also sprung to mind for me also where it is placed. To cool air only for it to be drastically heated up again can cause drastic issues. Obviously these aren't going to surface straight away and it's something you have chosen to do and have entrusted the Devil's Own guys to do their job. So you're getting some lower temperatures, but it's silly to say your car is more consistent without first having it on the Dyno really and getting some real logs and figures. Nobody is going to take your word on it. I think Steve could be right, you're pretty much the test mule for this, consider plugging the hole and trying injection after the charger, the results could be ten-fold better as rightly so, the charge is where the temps are built up. Would you blow on your soup before you put it in the microwave or after? It may only be water you are spraying on to the air, and yes Hydrogen obviously exists within Air but generally not without humidity, this is where your condensation would come from, if at all. At the end of the day Steve isn't bashing on what you've done, I think he's genuinely interested in where this is going. What he doesn't want is for you to

Cant disclose any info until after the tss unfortunately