Lauren

Donington is a good idea. Great track. I've also noted that I prefer the Linear settings for G force running with my custom settings in Arrange mode for speed.

Stiffer settings on the rear particularly for more sideways action I would think, though I dare say it'd drift okay in my usual mode as it goes pretty stiff when you load it up.

Rob is such a hooligan.

Just out of interest what is your mileage? Mine is still a bit reluctant to go from third to second when it's cold and in cold weather at 35K miles. But it's always fine after a few minutes driving.

Just to show it isn't too low! Had a chance to have a punt at a fast A road today in Cheshire. I'm still constantly suprised by how good it is. As soon as you put the hammer down, it just tightens right up, feels very stable in fast corners as the dampers go nearly full stiff on the outside and then you come out the exit the increase in stiffness with speed helps the car just to stick to the road, never getting unsetled, then a bit of stiffening at the front and rear under braking and as you make the transition for a bend it increases stiffness on the outside dampers again. Slow down for a 30mph limit and it's back to a comfortable ride once more. Happy days so far.

It's the angle. We know the ride height is equal, we measured it.

Here's a couple of pics I took at erm Sainsbury's to show how it sits now: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr

I think it actually would work better if you're shorter. They'd work for me I reckon.

No, just tyre foam. You can fit a full sized spare in the boot, though it does sit a little proud. There are a few markets in the world where a full size is required (I think) and there is a corresponding different boot lining to allow for this. I admit, my boot is full of a 12" sub, amp and DSP.

You can have a go, Alec if you want to try it. My car doesn't have a turbo.

Need some outside pics!

Here's a few pics of my day at Fensport yesterday; On the ramps getting the geo setup done: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr Looking up at a front strut: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr Rear Strut: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr Close up of front strut: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr Dave making adjustments to the camber: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr Indy in the Fensport workshop. Dave's Turbo GT86 with same suspension in the background across the yard: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr My car up in the air and Adrian's GT86R: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr Dave's GT86: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr Close up of Adrian's car: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr Dave plays with the rear camber: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr Rear toe being set: Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr Yukiko manager for Tein UK inspects the installation and notices the absence of collars on the bottom of the rear dampers. She runs to her car gets them and Dave has them on within ten minutes! Untitled by Lauren Blighton, on Flickr

In related news, I slackened off the rear a bit to 60 (from 50) and am running 50 front 60 rear as a starting point. Makes quite a difference to the ride quality, making it much more comfortable. I thought I'd try this after reading Keith's comments. Also whilst I was waiting to go into a house for a visit this afternoon, I did some more aggressive setups with harder starting points. This is using the four available presets. Lots to play with, need a trackday really to mess about with it.

I didn't have time, Jay, it's a very long way home from Fensport!

Here's a tip, Keith. Do your helmet strap up before you put your gloves on! Alec got a helmet for £50 from Demon Tweeks. Seemed pretty happy with it, I bought a Bell open face which is not as light, though is FR (if safety is your thing) and a lovely comfortable fit with a decent amount of paddng.

I never liked the shape of it tbh. I think it was too heavy and a bit of a barge as a result. Sort of the car for SLJs (StraightLine Junkies). Which is not my kind of car really. This concept is obviously different.

Pic of the unit in place for those not on my FB:

It is an impressive bit of kit. Even with what I would call basically startup settings for the longitudinal and lateral g-force and my programmed in speed settings, the way the car rides is lovely. Then you can fly it into a bend and voila, it goes nice and stiff and you have great control. Come out of the bend and it's back to comfortable motoring straightaway. Brilliant really! I think it's more comfortable than standard when cruising and obviously sharper than standard when it comes to cornering. Sort of having your cake and eating it. The support I've had from RRG Macc, the boys at Fensport and Yukiko at Tein has been second to none and I like it that everyone is so enthusiastic about getting a great setup for the GT86. I reckon between, Keith, Dave and I (and anyone else who goes for one in the near future) we'll have some great setups for all occasions. Three testers are better than one and all that. We've all agreed to share our findings, so it can only be for the common good. In related news, it looks like I've got a good chance of a factory tour at Tein when I visit Japan this summer.

To be fair if you wanted to put the current wheels on, you can pick them up for pennies these days.

Lovely if it stays close to the concept. I really wish they wouldn't call it the new Supra though. It was never a car I liked save for the earlier Celica-Supra.

I'm using Active (or 'Arrange' as it's called, displayed as GA) for road use. What I did with the speed settings is half the values in S2. Mine go up to 200 km/h (120mph). My speed settings don't come into effect until 60km/h. They are 50/50 up until that point. Then they go 42/42 at 60-80km/h. 80-100km/h 38/38. 100-140km/h 34/34. 140-160km/h 30/30. 160-180 km/h 24/24 180-200 km/h and above 20/20. I changed the settings for 120-140km/h which were 30/30 as it just felt a little too stiff. 34/34 is nice and comfortable through that speed range. I'm using the base G1 setup in GA mode with SA (speed mode) on for general driving. So the G-force remains active at all speeds. There is still much I need to learn about feel and stuff, so I will look at making alterations in due course.

That picture of the settings and how they change with damper increments is actually quite simple, it shows a) acceleration and deceleration. So you can see how much g-force applied affects the strength of the damper. A larger negative number represents a larger increase. So for example an increase of -20 is increasing damper force (it does do compression and rebound) by a third (well nearly) in -64 mode. Wheras less g-force results in less increase (i.e. a lower negative number).

Aha, after much reading of the manual, I thought I'd try the preset modes. Now I haven't driven it as it's a bit late for that. So I decided to try the first preset for lateral and longitudinal acceleration (NB these are independent of each other) and also a speed setting. Now, this was not too hard to do and I realised that you simply scroll through the modes. So if the speed setting is too much and it increases stiffness too much then I will try another preset and see what that does. As you can see it all changing, the issues should be obvious. Or if I can't work it out I will put it in GA (G-force arrange mode which is non-linear and more reactive to the road surface) mode. I think the linear increments in GL Mode are perhaps better suited for track work. I have spent three times as long trying to work out how to change the scale from 0-16 to 0-64 so as to allow finer adjustment. The manual is a bit of a game to be fair as it said, read page 46. So I did and wasted 20 minutes before I realised that page 45 tells you that you have to enter setup mode which requires some dexterity to perform. So the manual is a bit tricky. I will have plenty of time to mess about with it on the motorway tomorrow on the way down to Fensport and shall ensure I consult the manual on latte stops. What is striking is how you can not only see what the settings and how they change, you can also feel the difference. I think once I get it setup it's going to be brilliant.

Go for it, will fit my peak on my open face perfectly.

Tomorrow is a training day to set mine and Dave's car up (In that order. ). Once we've all been trained and this will include Tony and Dave too, then they will be able to set it up for you. You have to remember it is Keith's car that had the first set of this suspension with EDFC Active Pro which was only debuted at TAS 2014 in January, so it is still quite new. Yukiko has said that the instructions need work as they are a bit of a nightmare. Even the installation instructions are not particularly straightforward, so this stuff needs sorting out and Yukiko is working on it. Also as it's so new and also new to the GT86 and this system has a lot of parameters you can set, it will obviously take a bit of testing to work out good setups for the GT. Keith has already done a fair bit of the development work and Dave and I will continue that to an extent. I might ask Yukiko for additional training when I go to Japan in July. It's an idea whilst I'm there. Richard, just seen your post. I put it in active mode and it was way too hard as it seems to go to full stiffness at around 60mph which is a little harsh. I remember Keith saying he had a similar issue until Yukiko worked some magic on it. So, I put it back to the fixed position that was mid-way between hard and soft (8/16). I realised I could easily change this and set the rears full soft which drastically increased the ride quality as I mooched through Handforth. I've now worked out how to change the fronts too which is easy enough. For tomorrow I'm going to experiment a little bit on the way down, but as I've got 173 miles of motorway and A roads I'll likely set it to something like 10/14 front and rear just to get the magic carpet ride as it's a long way to drive. It may be that on the motorway a little stiffer is better than round town due to the higher speeds. I don't think I'll put it in active mode on the way down to Fensport, but it's easy enough to play with a bit. There is some increase in NVH due to the solid top mounts. But on the plus side there is better steering feel. The geo does feel good, though I admit I wasn't pushing it as I was just too tired and simply relieved to be back in my car! Comparing to how it was a little harder having driven that wallowy Yaris for three days I admit!