Lauren
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Providing I'm around I will be up for this.
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I have Tein Street Flex, the predecessor to the Flex A's with EDFC Active Pro. They do not have the hydro bump stops. I have custom spring rates and my rear dampers were shimmed up to increase damping by 20%. Every car I've been in with aftermarket springs on stock damprs has a noticably choppy ride, it's like the springs don't match the dampers, which is not that surprising I think. Coilovers are a better option.
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You could try selling at a few hundred quid more than a stock car. But I'm not sure they are worth much of a premium. Who knows? You can always reduce the price if it doesn't sell.
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I think it was more that my friend has a broken back from want of a better term, so ride is important for him. The problem with the ARB's was they limited traction out of corners it seems and the car didn't cope well with an undulating road which in this case was the 'Lauren Triangle' (A54/A537 Cat and Fiddle) which is a good test of handling with all it's bumps and crests. I think he was quite astonished by a ride in my car which prompted him to change.
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I've been in a friend's car with the Litchfield handling kit. The ride was awful, the ARB's were too stiff. I wouldn't recommend it. My friend changed his suspension shortly after for a Tein Advance setup with EDFC Active. After having a ride out in it, I couldn't understand what Litchfield was thinking, it seemed to just ruin it. No offence intended, if you're happy with it, that's cool. Ligtchfield told him that their kit was designed for 18" wheels not the lighter 17" wheels he had fitted. Yeah, right!
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So they've changed the valving to make the dampers a bit softer? I really wish they would give straight answers.
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Interesting and it is actually orange, not ginger!
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Ah I see. Did you not consider a DSP such as an Audison Bit10 etc? It's what I've got in my four year old setup.
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I must say, a lovely job, with some really good attention to detail. Only thing I was going to ask is why a single din head unit?
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No worries, anytime. Doing the suspension is fine, just know when to stop!
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Tim86's Journal - Silver 86 AT - DD & occasional track (East of England)
Lauren replied to Tim86's topic in Projects & Builds
Sounds like marketing blurb to me. I would expect it is still possible to hit the bump stop, I don't see why a monotube design is immune. The better answer would be that the Flex A has a hydraulic bump stop as it's designed for road use and helps you take bigger hits without it feeling like it crashes through the shell. So the aim is to give you a better ride and on the odd occasion you hit a big depression or pothole it won't feel as bad. I am quite happy to put you in touch with Yukiko at Tein who could doubtless give you a better explanation. I would suggest that the Monotube Teins (Monosports) don't have hydraulic bump stops because they are more track orientated. I think what you was told simply doesn't answer the question.- 36 replies
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Tim86's Journal - Silver 86 AT - DD & occasional track (East of England)
Lauren replied to Tim86's topic in Projects & Builds
Hydro bump stops are a nice addition to the Flex A's. I have the older Flex (been on my car for over three years and 70K miles now). I'm guessing you were told they don't need them because they don't have them. It's a bit of a USP for the Flex A's. In regard to spring rates, I was able to spec my own spring rates and also had the rear dampers shimmed to increase the damping by 20%. It's the personalised touch I value. -
Tim86's Journal - Silver 86 AT - DD & occasional track (East of England)
Lauren replied to Tim86's topic in Projects & Builds
Or go for 5/6kg spring rates as I did. Makes it a bit more pointy than stock and with negative camber and a slight reduction in rear toe, there is no understeer at all. I must admit, I don't get why some aftermarket coilovers thinking HKS and Meister R go for a softer rear. But I guess they err on the safe handling side which may be preferable for some, though I'm no fan of understeer myself.- 36 replies
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Those wheels are going to look fab when they're on. Well done on getting them. I'm glad it worked out in the end. You'll want to lower it after they're fitted, I'll bet.
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Rays do spigot rings, I've got them for mine. jesse@jessestreeter.com He will post them from Japan.
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Agreed!
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Yes, fair point, I didn't realise you had posted the pics in an odd way though as I didn't know I had to scroll through the pics, I thought they would be on the screen.
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Post pics, how many more times!
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35psi is fine. Roll with it. I don't think you will get the temperature in them on the road anyway. CE28's look good and none of that Japan Racing shite, which is definitely a good thing.
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Yeah, Lee's is grey. You get a similar effect with the pearlescent white in the sun too when it isn't blinding you!
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Had the same effect looking at Lee's brand new car at Japfest last weekend, looks stunning in the sun. But less so when the sun goes in.
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6/6kg is what TEIN ship Flex A's with. I had a custom spring rate and increased the damping rate by 20% on the rears. Happy to talk you through it. You can have my settings, you just need to work out how to programme it, or I can do it for you, but I rarely attend meets in the south of course.
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Active Pro is the one to get with the GPS module for the speed. I've spent a lot of time programming mine and I think that most of those with it have used my settings as a starting point. The good thing is you can stiffer the outer dampers under load more than the inner ones and you can choose this difference according to G-Force. I have ten settings on mine, but I only use one setting for track where it starts off stiffer, but still uses the same increase as what I use on the road. I turn off the speed settings for track as it's already starting out a fair bit stiffer, so you need to factor in how much range you are going to work with. It makes the car very, very progressive on track and well, on the road too if you're so inclined. I've driven a number of other people's cars without the EDFC and none seem to be as progressive as mine, it just doesn't bite, ever. Go for the 6/6kg spring if you want it nicely balanced and 5/6kg if you want it to tend to a bit more oversteer. I run 5/6kg. I've had mine fitted since my car had done 25K, it's now on 96K miles and the EDFC with the stepper motors has been absolutely faultless. Have a chat with Yukiko at TEIN UK.
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They will offer a hire purchase loan, it's worth checking out to see what the interest rate is as it may well be lower than 5.9%, but obviously you'll be taking out the loan on the whole price. Buying new is often done on a PCP. I did this over three years. I paid £450 a month with a 7K deposit on a new GT86. I paid the higher rate so the balloon payment at the end of the three years was £9K instead of £12K or so. I then took a personal loan for £7.5K which I finish in a couple of months, so it's taken me 4.5 years on a car costing £30K (I ticked the options) plus interest of course.
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Welcome aboard. You'll love this, BristolLee has a kouki car just like yours!