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Hiya guys I know its only a couple of days before Sarah's Grasshopper meet, but a few of us from the Owners Forum are meeting up next Thursday evening for a bite to eat and a natter. So the more the merrier If you fancy it, here is the address: The Grasshopper Inn Moorhouse (A25), near Westerham Kent, TN16 2EU Meeting from 7pm

The only reason I would disagree with suicide being a selfish act is because I've had the opportunity to listen to survivors of failed suicide. I infact would turn it around and suggest that it can be a very selfless act. E.g. Rational thoughts have been switched off due to the brain being broken and in creep irrational thoughs. "I'm such a shit wife, how did he end up with a waste of space like me? If I wasn't here he could find someone, so much better", "How did my kids end up with such a shit mother like me, if I wasn't here, he could find a better mother for them", "My poor parents..... what did they do so wrong to end up with such a waste of space as me as a daughter, I'm such a burden on them, just think how much happier they would be if I just wasn't here". Yes, in a rational brain these seem ridiculous, but when that has been switched off, your thought process is telling you that taking your own life will make everyone you care about happier. You have lost the ability to empathise with what the real consequences will be. And those quotes are from a real woman, which I can happily say got better :-)

Keith, what you describe is pretty much what most people think :-) I would love to sit down with you and broaden your understanding. I am closely involved with depression associated with my job, and have a close friend who is a survivor of puerperal psychosis, but only just, as she was very close to taking her own life. She now comes and gives talks at all of my Pregnancy Clubs. Many things can trigger a depressive state and it doesn't always have to be something traumatic, or associated with "hard lives". At the end of the day, some forms of depression can be seen as a part of the brain has become ill or broken, just like any other part of the body. This can cause the rational side of the brain to switch off, i.e. allowing irrational thoughts to take over. Haha, I could give a whole lecture lol but I'll stop there :-)

Ahhh, yes, very sad. To be fair a lot of people don't understand why someone would take their own life. And why should they? Mental health is very complex, with multiple dementions. I work closely with mental health, and have first hand experience of such tragic loss. My heart goes out to his family :-(

Welcome along B-)

Don't worry Rob, I'll teach you

Yeah! Party! Just booked a family room

Welcome along :-)

How awesome is this poster, a guy in the USA called Phillip has been collecting decals from clubs around the world over the past month or so and has finally mounted them all to be presented at the 2014 86 Expo Event in Virginia later this week. See if you can spot the Drivers Club

Oh, well, a couple have dropped out, but I'll still head over, as I need a pint of Guiness after the week I've had :-)

hmmm, ok, well I've decided to be completely anti social and arranging to go on a different day to you lot, 'cus I don't want no one rushing the bits I plan on having done

If anyone does fancy coming to the Grasshopper on Thursday, it's looking to be a nice little turnout, so far: Fatrab Subota Boy Subota Boy's Girl faith splerb splerb's old man TBucket Kodename47 (maybe) smudge_don (if tempted) sxocpaul (maybe) Rob (only if he can be arsed) Spec K (will try)

ok, so just being a little cynical here, how long does it take to tint the rear and sides of the GT86? is this guy going to have time to do multiple tints in a couple of hours? When my car went in it was in for a day? just curious?

Looks like a fantastic turn out - excellent photos

You know me, I'll drive anywhere

Yep, the one without pudding

My final payment has also been sent - yeah! for keethos

Hiya Steve and Ed, Welcome along and it was nice to meet you guys at Leeds Castle

It's to cater for the people who are not able to attend weekends

Hiya Omar, glad to see you made it, and only with a little persuading I'm obviously more sociable than Rob seeing as we did manage a little chat

Just looking through the diary: 9/8 = At Grasshopper & Tunnel Run 16/8 = I'm at Goodwood and others at TSS 23/8 = At Millbrook with some of the others 30/8 = Abbey and Robs BBQ 6/9 = JAE Pretty clear after that ;-)

I'm a no also as doing the Millbrook Drifting that day, along with Mike, Spec K and Keethos

Oh no, and you've only just got it back! Hope it gets sorted soon for you with minimal hassle

Hey, Sarah I'll be there hun, I'll put something on the other forum as well

hahaha, you really do put me in a fascinating light. However, no need as Phil has already had the pleasure of meeting me ;-) I get around you know Phil, I also have a pair of stock 86 fender garnishes, but it looks like you may have a surplus of offers And by all means, I'm always happy to help