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It was a bit of a light hearted joke. With all the technical stuff from us lately, thought it help lighten the mood a little. Jerrick

Hello everyone, MeisterR is in the finial stages of its new website, and we are looking for pictures for the gallery and testimonial of the coilovers from members who have used them. We thought it will be easier to have everything on one thread and we will add them on to the website. So if you have pictures of your car on MeisterR coilovers, please post them and write a short review of what you think of them. 1. Name: (If you want to provide it) 2. Location: (Town or County) 3. Car Make and Model: (Toyota GT86, Mazda MX5, Nissan Skyline GTR, etc) 4. MeisterR Coilovers Model: (Zeta-S, Zeta-R, etc) 5. A Short Review: a. Performance on Road: b. Performance on Track: c. Value for Money: d. Would you buy again: e. Any Personal Note: 7. Pictures: Please attach any pictures you have of your car that you want to show the world. 8. Video: If you have any video of your car in action on YouTube / Vimeo, please attach link to video. The new website should look a lot better, and make navigating easier. We also have some exciting new product to add onto the website so we are looking forward to getting them completed and launch. Thank you for everyone's help over the years, and I look froward to everyone's pictures and review. Jerrick

Just a bump on this thread, I think we still have a few set of the GT86 available at the discounted price. Another thing to bring up about this "Off Road Use Only" Clause, it is more for USA, but adopted worldwide. With USA, if a suspension isn't certified by DOT, it needs to be stated for "Off Road Use Only". That is why you see this with just about every suspension manufacturer in the world, it is mainly to limit the liability of the manufacturer. In UK, if the suspension are installed correctly, and passed by the VOSA appointed inspector (your MOT person), then it should be deem legal for road use. As far as I know, unlike Germany and surrounding countries that requires show of TUV certification for all road use products. There isn't a law in the UK that require owners to show "type approval" of a suspension before it is deem legal for road use. So the road worthiness of your car are to be determined by your MOT inspector. Hope that helps. Jerrick

Correctly installed your car will pass the MOT which makes it road worthy. You should always declare modifications to your insurer. Otherwise it could void it.

On our current MeisterR Zeta-R setup, the spring rate are 6kg/mm front and rear. A few customers who have been on the Zeta-R have no complain. As Kevin said, unless you are going way out of line you should be able to tune your suspension so the front end don't lose grip (understeer) before the rear. That is one of the good feature about an adjustable damper, because it will allow you to tune your suspension to your preference. By adjusting the damping, you can get the rear to lose grip first to "dial out" understeer. Also, just a side note: We got a 20% discount group buy happening that include the GT86. So if you are interested in a new set of coilovers , we got them currently at £615 delivered. This is for a complete set of coilovers including camber adjustable front top mount. More details here: Jerrick

Well, We have the MeisterR Zeta-R coilovers on offer at 20% off right now, so that can sort your coilovers. We also got loads of Enkei wheels in stock (about 500 of them), so there are choices also. The Rocket Bunny wheel is the Enkei RS05RR, but they are quite expensive and not even the Enkei International hub keep them in stock. A good great looking option would be the RPF1, great looking wheels with all the engineering, pedigree, and heritage one would expect from Enkei. Just a thought. Jerrick

A bump to say this is still happening. We have a few set of GT86 coilovers in stock still in this offer. Not many left so get in on the deal if you are interested. Jerrick

Just to update that we reach our require number of order, so it will be a flat discount of 20% now. The total delivered price will be £615. Stock are limited so if you are interested, now would be a great time. Jerrick

I just want to give an advance notice that we have now secured a deal with Enkei International as their official UK distributor. We are in the middle of reviewing the 2016 prices. Expect price to drop across the board from the current RRP. We will also offer discount to forum members. As always, £0 down 0% interests free financing is also available. So if you want some nice shoe for 2016, might want to start thinking about RPF1 or PF01. Jerrick

We are still working on the 2016 prices, but we updated the RPF1 list price for 2016. You can see them here: http://enkei-uk.com/UKprice/RPF1priceUK.pdf The 10% discount forum offer is still running, so take 10% off the listed price and that will be your price. Price include UK mainland delivery as well as VAT. Any other questions, please feel free to let us know. Jerrick

20% discount still going for anyone thinking about getting a set. Pay it in one go if you want them now or drop a deposit if you need to save up a bit first.

Just to post up the latest update on this. Lucio have finish 1st place at Race 10 also. As you notice, there is only 3 competitors this round because they are the main challenger to the championship. With this 1st place finish, Lucio will lead into Race 11 and Race 12 on December 5th/6th at the Royal Purple Raceway in Baytown, Houston. However, it will be very tight as there is less then single place worth of points between the 3 competitors. So who ever do the best in the next two rounds will take home the championship trophy as no one has a big lead at all. We will report back with some news, hopefully it will be gold but there are no guarantee in racing. Jerrick

A common question many owner ask: How does MeisterR coilovers compare to other brands? As coilovers are only part of a car's suspensions, and there are many other variable involved; it is often a difficult questions to answer. So I want to bring up a very interesting "test" that we will be doing. Here in Houston USA, I meet a driver at a local SCCA Auto Solo event name Lucio D'lsep. Lucio was an Italian racing driver back in the early 2000's, and have decided to get back into competitive motorsport after being absent for over 12 years. Here is a picture of him in the former glory days racing with Osella in Rechberg (Austria) back in 2002. Lucio's current car is a Honda S2000 daily driver that runs in the SCCA Auto Solo STR (Street Touring Roadster) Class. The good thing about the STR class is that the rules limit modification you can do as well as tyres you can use, thus creating a class that daily street driven cars can compete with each other. Suspension Issue Speaking to Lucio, he have been having issue with his car. He is using an off the shelf Bilstein PSS9 adjustable coilovers, and he just couldn't get the suspension to work with the car. The tyres just couldn't find grip and the body motion does not feel controlled no matter how he adjust the coilovers, so he is struggling to keep speed through the corners as well as keeping the car on the racing line. The result is lost traction as well as hitting cones, and this put a time penalty on his result. MeisterR Suspensions Change I thought this will make a great opportunity to test the MeisterR coilovers against Bilstein, and will keep things fair as we can get a qualitative (how the suspensions feel on the road) and a quantitative (Lap time) feedback on the same road car driven by the same driver in the same competitive event. So we got a set of off the shelf MeisterR Zeta-R coilovers, and swap the Bilstein PSS9 coilovers out. Initial Feedback on MeisterR coilovers The initial feedback by Lucio is positive after a few days of street use. Here is what Lucio have to say: Both the Bilstein and the MeisterR look like serious tools and not toys. The MeisterR out of the box are ready for the installation, the light weight aluminium top mount included with the MeisterR is the main difference when compared to the Bilstein that need to reuse the top mount from the original Honda suspension. After 12 years out of racing it’s the first time that I see a suspension with springs coil adjustments independent from ride height adjustments. This is a great improvement and it mean no more compromise when adjusting the ride height. Compare to the Bilstein, the MeisterR damping response and compliancy on the irregularity of the street gives you confidence. You are able to feel the grip and trust the car/tyres, and know that when the grip finish there will be space for correction. The accuracy of the steering is what impressed me the most with the MeisterR coilovers. The front of the car is on track followed by the rear even with the non-linear power curve of the S2000 engine trying to mess up your approach to the apex. It is also more comfortable on softer damping setting. If your potential girlfriend has already experienced sport cars, she will not complain about comfort as softer damping setting is not so far from the original equipment. SCCA Result with Bilstein The last round of the SCCA Auto Solo, Lucio finished in 7th place with 13 competitors total. While the lap time of 51.297 isn't slow, the additional penalties from hitting cones brought his result down to 7th place. The next round of the SCCA Auto Solo will be this Saturday 2nd of August, 2015. We will get the S2000 to the track and hope we finish on the podium, because when you race you race to win. We will report back in a few days time.

Well, here is the finale: 90HP MX-5 + MeisterR Zeta-R Coilovers + Kumho V70A (185 R14) Base Lap time: 9:21 Final Lap time: 8:39 That is right, the coilovers and tyres knock a WHOPPING 42 seconds off the lap time! This 8:39 lap time tie the 90HP RingBanana MX-5 with a standard 240hp Honda S2000 driven by Horst von Saurma according to the Nurburgring lap time record… Enjoy the video. :) https://youtu.be/EvToQblt29Y Jerrick

The latest episode from the Ring Banana is out… and talk about shocking (Pun intended). We all know that tyres has one of the biggest influence on the performance of a car, as they are the only thing that touches the ground. The Ring Banana set the base lap time of 9:21 around the Nurburg Ring, then knock 22 seconds off to 8:59 by changing out the 10 years old tyres to a set of semi-slick tyres. The goal of getting a sub 9 minutes lap around the Nurburg Ring with the 90 hp Mazda Miata / MX-5 was shattered on the first try. In an interests to find out how much difference will just the MeisterR coilovers make, they install the coilovers, do the alignment, and put the 10 years old road tyres back on for another go. We expected maybe a 10 seconds improvement, but nothing prepare us for the 27 seconds improvement that the coilovers provided! That is a 8.54 lap around the Green Hell with a set of 10 years old road tyres!!! Shocking performance from the new shocks! :) Full in car lap video can be found here: https://youtu.be/UpFi0dfRnUM Jerrick

Honestly don't know but it is very unlikely. Edwin

We haven't decided on a final date yet. So you can place your deposit and pay later, the New year would not be a problem. Edwin

UPDATE: We have reached the minimum target for this GB. For those who have placed their deposit you can complete the remainder of your purchase on the web link below. Make sure to use the code SCOOBYGB20 on the payment screen. http://www.cyberspeeds.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=78 Anyone still thinking about this can still take advantage of this offer, it will be running for a little while longer. If you have any questions please drop us a PM or email info@meisterr.co.uk. Edwin

We have offered this across several Subaru forums and have 4 confirmed deposits. So only 1 more deposit required for the 20% discount. As soon as we reach the 5, we will dispatch all fully paid orders. Edwin

Just an update on this as we just had Race 9. I am happy to report that Lucio have taken 1st place in Class. There is 12 race in the season, so we will see how the end of the year go. The last race will be on December 6th. We hope for a podium finish in the championship, will see how it goes. Jerrick

That is good because that is the "answer" I was hoping for really. The GT86 is a great handling car, and because of the suspension design there is a limited adjustment range if you want to keep everything functional. So our current coilovers allows the suspension to work as intended, but producing a suspension that will let the car go any lower will literally throw performance out the window. Therefore, if people want to have a suspension that go really low, it is something we can do. While we can still produce a functional and safe suspension that will go low, it will not perform as well as our current setup… and that will be a step backward that pains me. Good that no one on this forum is interested. Jerrick

We have been working with some owners in the USA market and this questions seems to come up a lot. So we want to talk to the UK community to see what are the general opinion on this. Because of the GT86 suspension design, it is a rather "knife edge" in terms of having the damper short so you can go low, or having longer damper with more travel to provide better compliancy. Generally we strike somewhere in the middle so both can be achieve, but will be limited in the lowering range. However, many USA owners seems to go all out and use extremely short unit in order to go very low. I want to know if there are any owners who are interested in this type of "Super Low" kit or all around performance are the prefer suspension design. Jerrick

That is good to hear. I am just looking at the engineering drawing for the GT86 and pretty much to make a suspension go any lower can our current offering, I am going to need to throw performance out the window. We can do it, but it isn't something I personally would like because I know it isn't going to perform. So the fact that most of you feel that there aren't a need to go "stupid" low is good feedback for us, because it mean we don't have to make a kit that I personally wouldn't like to be driving on. Jerrick

HI, The Zeta range of coilovers come with 12 months manufacturers defect warranty. You are covered even for track use. It is not limited to this as we do look at things on a case by case basis. In additions to the above our GT1 coilovers are also covered by our life time warranty for the hydraulic function of the damper. Edwin

We have a new discount offer to members of the forum. You can now get 10% OFF + Free Shipping for MeisterR Zeta R coilovers simply by using the voucher code provided! MeisterR Zeta-R Coilovers (GT86 / BRZ) The Specification of the MeisterR Zeta-R Coilovers: *Zeta-R Aluminium Top Mount with Spherical Bearing AND Camber Adjustments *Monotube damper with 32 stage damping adjustment (Compression and Rebound Combined) *Linear Rate SAE9254 Chrome Silicon Steel Springs *Lengthen Heavy Duty Rubber boot. *Aluminium Spring Perch, Locking Collar, and Lower Bracket (Steel Bracket for MacPherson Strut Models) *Dual Perch Coilovers Construction *(Independent Springs Tension and Ride Height Setting) How to order? *Price? Ordering couldn't be easier. *Simply place your order at the MeisterR website ( http://www.MeisterR.co.uk ) and check out using the secured webshop. All you have to do is enter the voucher code below during checkout and your discount will be automatically calculated. Just put in the voucher code GT86 during checkout to get your discount... Simple! *Free Shipping for UK Mainland, Highland, and Island. (Exclude Jersey / Guernsey). If you have any problem, please feel free to PM me or E-mail me at info@meisterR.co.uk